Is Gay okay with God?

“For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?” – 1 Cor. 14:8


I will start off by saying that this is not a judgment on the lifestyle of anyone. It is not my place to judge. It is certainly not my place, nor yours, to take the life of another for their lifestyle choices.

Another thing that I will point out—as Eric Holder knows—this is not written out of hate. Any true Christian does not act out of hate. This is written in truth. As this report will show, the Bible does, indeed, say that homosexuality is immoral and homosexuals will not attain the Kingdom of Heaven. This statement is not made out of hate, but out of love. One concerned with seeing all get to heaven would issue a warning. The Christian, however, should know that if one will not, at least, look into it then they should not cast pearls before swine. If a person does not want to hear it, stop trying.

If the “truth hurts,” and people get upset or angry, one needs to look into what actually is making you angry. In fact, hate is not being perpetrated against the homosexuals from the Christian community. The Christians object to homosexuality being taught in schools when the Bible cannot be. Just as they are upset that the false religions of evolution and global warming are taught as fact instead of the bad theories that they are. The hate is emanating from the homosexuals to the Christian; but the Christian is not covered under hate crimes legislation.

That being said, the recent push to make those in the homosexual lifestyle more important than everyone else is nothing more than a political means of making sure those classes get to the polls and vote the right way; not their conscience. The same holds true for welfare and health care for those who do not want to work.

If you murder, there is a penalty for that and it is Biblical. Yet there are those who march right from their protest to protect the right to murder babies to their protest to prevent taking the life of a murderer.

Judgment

Let us explore judgment. This may seem an unlikely topic concerning the issue of homosexuality. However, it is something that you must keep in your heart on the topic.

John Chapter Eight tells us, in verses 3 through 9 that the scribes and Pharisees brought a woman before Jesus accusing her of adultery. They reminded him of “the law of Moses;” that she should be put to death by stoning. “…but what sayest thou?”

Jesus began writing in the sand, but the scripture leaves out what he wrote. With their persistence, he rose and said, “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.”

He continued to write and the very conscience of those who brought the woman convicted them and they all left until only the woman remained.

There are theories that he wrote the sins of those who brought the woman to him in that sand. I have heard the argument that the man was not presented, as well, so they turned away because of that.

The homosexual lifestyle, that has even infiltrated the Church, is not of God nor Godly. But do you lead a perfectly Godly lifestyle?

The subject of judgment reaches much deeper than that. We have all heard the battlecry of the liberal from Matthew Seven, Verses 1 and 2; “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.”

It is amazing how religious they become on a topic when they want something. The problem is that not even “religious” people truly study the topic.

I studied one book thoroughly which became an eye-opening experience on just this subject. The book of Jude. The second-to-the-last book of the Holy Bible. Any first year religious person has heard of Michael. He is one of two angels that the Bible names specifically. The other is Gabriel who was sent to announce the birth of John to Zachariah and the birth of his cousin, the messiah, to a very reluctant Mary. That is an interesting topic that I might cover during the Christmas season in which most of you believe Jesus was born. We know that Michael was one of the angels that did not follow Satan and is in fact the angel slated to defeat Satan in the end. He knows who Satan is. He knows what Satan is. So do the followers of Satan today. So should every Christian.

In the book of Jude in the King James Version of the Bible are the following words in Verses 9.

9. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Notice that in this verse, Michael durst not bring against him (Satan) a railing accusation. He simply said, “The Lord Rebuke thee.” For a better understanding of this, I utilized Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance and a bible program that I found off a rack for about ten-bucks. I found something interesting about this verse when literally translated from the Greek. The actual translation goes something like:

But Michael, the archangel, when contending with the devil, he argued about the body of Moses, he dared not to bring an accusation against him of blasphemy, but said, “May the Lord rebuke you!”

The differences are immediately clear. The first is that he dared not bring an accusation of blasphemy against Satan. Why? He knows Satan. He knows what he is, as I have pointed out. But Michael also knows God. He can stand before God and ask questions. He knows, as is stated in the Bible, that the only unforgivable sin is blasphemy. That is the sin that God punishes with eternal death. There is no going back from blasphemy. And it is the judgment that only God—not even a mighty Archangel—can make and reserves to himself.

As you recall in the story of the adulteress, she was condemned to death. All of the guilty parties were not presented to Jesus. After all, it takes a man to make an adulteress. With that information, you should be able to better understand the words of Jesus in Matthew Seven, verses 1 and 2.

The second item to note is that Michael did not say, “The Lord rebuke thee.” What he said was, “May the Lord rebuke you!” Michael did not make a demand of God to punish Satan. However highly he might have recommended it.

Marriage, divorce and Biblical interpretation.

The whole reason I started this article was an interpretation of Matthew Chapter Nineteen, Verses 3 through 9, on the subject of divorce, combined with one piece of scripture found elsewhere in the Bible. I always caution that one can logically argue themselves out of their place in heaven. Satan will be glad to assist. If you remember, he tried to use scripture when tempting Jesus for forty days and forty nights. Jesus did not budge. Should you?

What is spoken of, in Matthew Nineteen, is the Holy bond of marriage that God himself instituted. It is a Biblical concept. One can wonder why people, most of whom claim there is no God, would want to enter into such a Holy compact. Especially since the concept of civil unions, in many states, give them the same status. Interestingly, many heterosexual marriages are nothing more than civil ceremonial contractual agreements.

The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? 4. And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5. And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6. Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. 7. They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? 8. He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9. And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

Let us make some mental notes here. Read Verse 4 again. “…Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,…” Jesus very clearly specifies a male and a female. Verse 5 tells us that a man will leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife. A wife, by definition, is a female.

Someone then took Galatians Chapter Three, Verse 28

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Their interpretation was that God is saying that he does not consider male or female and any loving relationship is okay with God.

This is the problem with interpretation. I can take any one piece of scripture from the Bible and make any interpretation that you want. The problem with this failed interpretation is one of context. The context that I gave in Matthew Nineteen is very clear and to the point. I gave you the whole context of the issue spoken of. Not so with the interpretation of Galatians 3:28. The context of the Galatians scripture is one of law and how it applies to the church.

Galatians Three:

10. For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. 11. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. 12. And the law is not of faith: but, the man that doeth them shall live in them. 13. Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 14. That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. 15. Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto. 16. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. 17. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18. For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. 19. Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20. Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21. Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22. But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23. But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The whole premise of this scripture is that God gave the law so that everyone could understand the morality of God. It was to teach and give a basis for understanding. Much of that law was concerning sacrifices for sins. Jesus became that sacrifice as the Passover lamb for all sins thereafter and we no longer have to sacrifice animals to gain the forgiveness of God. It is faith in the sacrifice that he made of his own son by which we can gain forgiveness.

What is meant, in Verse 28 boils down to the fact that everyone who believes in Jesus as the Messiah in one in the Christ.1 It has nothing to do with the institute of Marriage.

An expounded view of the whole text is that God created the law for the Hebrews because they were pretty thick-headed. Either do this or pay the price. Black-and-white. No gray areas. It was not open to interpretation. If you wish to study those laws—and we will cover some in this article—they are contained in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. The task of Jesus was to bring a spiritual interpretation of the law, but not to change it.2

What did God say?

Before there was a New Testament, there had to be an old. In fact, Paul, which the homosexual community often quotes when it suits their need, taught from the old Hebrew scripture. He did not walk around saying, “You should have read what I wrote in Galatians. That was really the tops.” Paul’s writings were collected later into what we call the New Testament. These were actually letters to the various Churches explaining this thing called Christianity.

When Paul refers to a “law,” he refers to that scripture which we call the Old Testament—more accurately, the Torah. He knew that “law” very well. If you do not know, Paul was previously referred to as Saul. Saul persecuted and condemned Christians to imprisonment. He was a zealot for the law until one day, on a lonely road, the Messiah had a chat with him.

There was very little grandiose interpretation of the law. Most of the laws of Moses fit succinctly into pieces of scripture. What God gave to Moses, on the matter of homosexuality, was this:

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.—Leviticus 18:22

Even the New International Version reads, ” ‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.”

Leviticus Twenty, Verse 13 reads:

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Therefore, it is okay to kill gays for God, right? If you still believe that, I suggest you review the topic on judgment.

That was “Old School”

“That was the Old Testament,” some will argue. “Jesus changed all of that in the New Testament!”

After all, Matthew Chapter Five records that Jesus said:

27. Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28. But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

And remember those who are without sin…?

Recall that he explained that it was due to the hardness of their hearts that Moses gave them a writ of divorce. If you read the quote from Chapter Five, you will see that the Messiah is saying that if you lust after a woman in your heart you commit adultery. He is making sexual sin even more strict. Some of us might recall the famous Jimmy Carter confession during his run for president.

There are many instances were the Messiah is called upon to interpret the law and to understand fully, you should pick up your Bible and review them all. I suggest that you pick up a copy of Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance to understand the big words. Many words in the Bible have been purposely misconstrued in New Speak dictionaries of today.

What would Paul do?

Paul was, according to scripture, transformed from Saul on the road to Damascus. Saul’s story begins in the Book of the Acts of the Apostles, Chapter Seven, Verse 58. The story of his transformation begins in Acts, Chapter Nine. I give you these references for your review so that you can see what a bad man he was (I use the term “bad man” in lieu of other terms that I thought of. Fill in your own blank).

What Paul wrote in his first letter to the Corinthians (Chapter Six) was,

5. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6. But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7. Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8. Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

In the book of Romans, the First Chapter he writes,

18. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19. Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25. Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29. Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30. Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31. Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32. Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

These scriptures are taken straight from the English translation of the Greek for the King James Version of the Holy Bible. I did not delve into my Strong’s concerning them. They are, however, very clear.

In Summary

It is clear by the Bible that the homosexual lifestyle is not a Godly lifestyle. God considers it an abomination. Jesus did not have to directly address the issue because the Hebrews knew it was an abomination and did not practice it or did so in private. The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah—and the cities surrounding them that were like them—are referenced throughout the New Testament to indicate that lifestyle choice.

Paul, on the other hand, dealt with the Greeks where this lifestyle was prevalent. His words, on the matter, were pretty straight forward. As are his words on other sin in Romans Chapter One.

However, neither he nor Jesus called for stoning, or otherwise causing the demise, of any homosexual. The words of Paul clearly indicate that the decision on punishment for those who practice that, or any other lifestyle, is reserved to God.

This article is not meant to be a judgment on that lifestyle. If you are convicted in your own conscience it is because of the word of God. Not mine.

What it is meant to be is a judgment on recent legislation passed giving one segment of society preferential treatment over another. If one murders, there is a penalty attached to that crime whether because of the sexual practice of someone or to steal the pension check of an elderly lady for drugs. Does the elderly lady who worked her whole life deserve less consideration?

If I practice Christianity as I understand it, I cannot hate gays. I do not agree with their lifestyle and I have Biblical reasons to back it up. I do object to their “parades” where they pass-in-review scantily clad waving their sexual preference. I also object to heterosexuals parading down the street in scantily clad clothing rubbing against one-another in sexual gyrations. I object to drunkards running up and down the street yelling and screaming and fighting. I object to drunkards climbing behind the wheel of an automobile to drive home.

It has nothing to do with hate, however. It has everything to do with plain morality and sensibility. Yet these same people who complain about Christian morality have no problem trying to legislate their morality on Christians.

You say there are no persecutions of Christians in America? Read the bill. Or just read the accounts in national media of those who have suffered under such legislation in England and Canada. Incidentally, Paul was eventually convicted because of hate and executed. Not that he hated, but that others hated him. The Messiah hung on the cross for the same reason.

Are gays okay with God? That is between them and God.

For God so loved the world…3

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1 1 Corinthians, Chapter Twelve is a deeper lesson in this topic.
2 Matthew 5:17&18; Mattew 7:12; Matthew 11:13 (Be sure to read the context of all of those verses.)
3 John 3:16

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2 Responses to Is Gay okay with God?

  1. David Fouser says:

    The comeback to “Judge not least ye be judged” is “Judge a righteous judgement.” We judge/discriminate every day; indeed one who won’t judge is judging; that it is detrimental to judge whether to get up or not – or go to bed/sleep or not. To be alive is to judge. We judge as a society not to rob, kill or destroy/murder others! We can’t judge others relative to the damnation or salvation of their souls, but we judge whether they are on the wrong side of the road, pointing a gun at us, shoving in front of us at the check-out, etc!
    It is love to warn those heading for death what faces them; hatred is to let them comfortably chose the lifestyle shown to cut their lives 20-40%, ruin the children under their care, lead to the demise of hundreds who trust these adapting this lifestyle in the military, etc.
    Truth is; rail as you will about “rights”, being born that way, etc – you will reap the results as any who step off a cliff believing they can fly.

    • gcdaz says:

      Thanks for your comment, David. I accidentally undertook a study of what God means about Judgment when I did an exhaustive study of the book of Jude. I took the literal translation and compared with other scriptures in the Bible and came to this humble conclusion. Most people are confused on the subject in my humble opinion. I cannot go into a lengthy discussion here, but I believe that the judgment that God reserves to himself is life or death, meaning after our human demise.

      Jude verse 9 says (KJV) Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

      In the literal translation from the Greek, Michael actually says “May the Lord rebuke thee.” A very important distinction because he is not demanding of God, merely suggesting. If we take the phrase “a railing accusation,” that actually translates to a charge of blasphemy. Now we know from the Bible that Michael is among God’s most trusted servants. He talks to God and is God’s General, so-to-speak. Yet this most powerful being does not demand of God to punish Satan, but merely suggests it would be a good idea leaving the decision to Go. And he durst not, or dared not, to bring an accusation of blasphemy against Satan. You can certainly judge that you do not want to be around such persons and do not want such persons around your children. You can suggest that they read Romans Chapter 1 and other passages, but I would steer clear of saying you are going to hell if you don’t change your ways or calling them a blasphemer.

      Thanks for your interest.

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